Comment by bluGill

1 day ago

I've seen that claim, but places that run good bus service for decades see plenty of transit oriented development. (most of those places also have subways though. The other options seems to bad bus service which won't get transit oriented development but bad service is enough to explain why)

As a city grows, it's common for the transit system to evolve from direct bus routes to trunk lines supported by local buses. Maybe there was a good bus service to the city center when you bought your home. But now the buses only go to the nearest transit hub, because there is no space for all the buses in the city center anymore. While the average quality of transit may have improved, your services are slower and less convenient than they used to be.

You and I are well aligned on a lot of things - but in general, buses do not result in TOD. There are some exceptions, but they are very much exceptional. Trains generally do result in TOD because the people pushing for TOD get to try over and over again.