Comment by nialv7

6 months ago

Does this analogy work? It's exceedingly hard to make new low-background steels, since those radioactive particles are everywhere. But it's not difficult to make AI-free content - well just don't use AI to write it.

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nwbt  6 months ago

It is, even if not impossible, entirely impracticable to prove any work is AI free. So no one but you can be sure.

lurk2  6 months ago

Who is going to generate this AI-free content, for what reason, and with what money?

  • arjie  6 months ago

    People do. I do, for instance. My blog is self-hosted, entirely human-written, and it is done for the sake of enjoyment. It doesn't cost much to host. An entirely static site generator would actually be free, but I don't mind paying the 55¢/kWh and the $60/month ISP fee to host it.

    • wahern  6 months ago

      That only begs the question of how to verify what content is AI-free. Was this comment generated by a human? IIRC, one of the big AI startups (OpenAI?) used HN as a proving ground--a sort of Turning Test platform--for years.

  • vouaobrasil  6 months ago

    I make all my YouTube videos and for that matter, everything I do AI free. I hate AI.

    • lurk2  6 months ago

      Once your video is out in the wild there’s as of yet no reliable way to discern whether it was AI-generated or not. All content posted to public forums will have this problem.

      Training future models without experiencing signal collapse will thus require either 1) paying for novel content to be generated (they will never do this as they aren’t even licensing the content they are currently training on), 2) using something like mTurk to identify AI content in data sets prior to training (probably won’t scale), or 3) going after private sources of data via automated infiltration of private forums such as Discord servers, WhatsApp groups, and eventually private conversations.

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