Comment by iamacyborg

6 days ago

I don’t believe they mean storing it on a company owned device, just that Apple and Google are US companies

That's what I got out of isodev's comment too. The data is accessible by US companies still. If it comes down to being able to sell services and phones to the US market or giving up your data to a warrant I don't think Apple would stand on principal and lose US market access. [0]

[0] To clarify preemptively I mean if it came down to that in the end. I think Apple would attempt to fight it but if they lost in the Supreme Court and had to make the choice I think privacy would lose that fight.

maybe, but it reads like IT managed devices owned by your employer. i've never seen it referenced as "managed" when referring to the fact that iOS/Android are US companies. seems a strained way to phrase it

  • Your iPhone is fully managed by Apple. They control which apps are preinstalled, which apps you can install and uninstall, they can even intervene and install/uninstall apps without your intervention. Your phone needs to communicate with Apple even to just be a phone for calling and SMS. The data from apps is included in your iCloud backups (in addition to the data some apps choose to share with iCloud so it syncs between devices) and so easily accessible. We’re not talking about individual targeting here, but there are no technological barriers to guard against your data being shared by “the platform”.

  • An iOS device is a device managed by Apple, though. The user doesn't manage it themselves. I didn't get a hint of employer owned devices from that happen.