Comment by the_mitsuhiko

5 days ago

> What do you recommand to get a Claude-code-like experience in the open-source + local llm ecosystem?

There is nothing at the moment that I would recommend. However I'm quite convinced that we will see this soon. First of all I quite like where SST's OpenCode is going. The upcoming UX looks really good. Secondly because having that in place, will make it quite easy to put local models in when they get better. The issue really is that there are just not enough good models for tool usage yet. Sonnet is so shockingly good because it was trained for excellent tool usage. Even Gemini does not come close yet.

This is all just a question of time though.

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hucker  5 days ago

Have you tried aider, and if so, how is it lacking compared to Claude Code in your opinion?

  • the_mitsuhiko  5 days ago

    I only tried aider with hosted models and it's too expensive compared to Claude Code so I did not give it a real proper try.

    • CuriouslyC  5 days ago

      Aider is worth some tinkering for slightly different reasons than Claude Code.

      I find agents do a lot of derpy shit for hard problems but when you've got fairly straightforward things to build it's nice to just spin them up, let them rip and walk away.

      Aider feels more like pair programming with an agent, it can kind of be spun up and let rip, but mostly it tries to keep a tighter feedback loop with the user and stay more user directed, which is really powerful when working on challenging things. For stuff like codebase refactors, documentation passes, etc that tight loop feels like overkill though.

  • peterbraden  4 days ago

    I have tried both, and aider is far less able when it comes to navigating your codebase, and self driving investigation. You are very involved in context management with aider, whereas claude code can use cli commands to do a lot of things itself.