Comment by ivape

2 days ago

Magicians use this effect I believe:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forcing_(magic)

They basically project a choice onto you.

Example: https://youtube.com/shorts/fcHxM47JRjc

Jordan doesn’t know he wasn’t really given a choice, but manipulated.

> Magicians use this effect I believe: They basically project a choice onto you.

Also great for kids. Bad: “It’s chilly. Do you want to wear a sweater?” Good: “It’s chilly. Do you want the blue or green sweater?”

But I think that’s different than the Forer/Barnum effect. That’s just choice curation.

No, a force has nothing to do with a psychological thing, it is always an actual trick or slight of hand.

A magician's choice (Wikipedia it) is closer to what you describe.

(Note that most of David Blaine's videos are edited to cut the part where the actual force happens, which is why it feels like a psychological trick instead of slight of hands)

  • The simplest example would be a magician presenting two things and saying 'pick one', at which point they say 'okay, I'll keep that one' or 'okay, I'll get rid of that one' depending on the choice. There's a psychological aspect, but only so far as the magician is pretending that the choice actually did anything.