Comment by gchamonlive

8 months ago

Thanks for the thought out response, I think I can let my guard down. We were both arrogant and there's nothing wrong with it.

I'm coming from a personal point. I don't care about space travel or these enormous projects. I'm a simple guy with simple needs, and I like people and serving people. I am grateful there are people out there like you that spend time on this so I can focus on alienating myself with things I find interesting, like drawing and philosophy of consciousness.

It's just that not everything has to be a data point or a general abstraction on a larger scale. You can meet people in their own grounds so you can find common ground without imposing yourself.

And about drugs, I reflected on what you said and I think I could have expressed myself better, because I don't actually think there's a universal imposition of having to learn philosophy to take drugs, even though I agree with Simone Weil when she says philosophy is the required work so we can become vessels of God (hope this doesn't trigger your acid-like thinking detector). I only think drugs are tools we have the option to use and have the control over how we are going to direct them.

For my part I probably could benefit from studying philosophy and contemplating inner life a little more. It’s also fair to say I’m disillusioned with psychedelics - not that I don’t think they’re pretty amazing, but that time in my life has passed and I’ve come to view them as maybe overhyped.

I find my contentment and meaning in digging and planting these days, managing trees and general manual labour surrounded by birdsong and small animals. And in my relationships with my partner and my friends.

In many ways this is as irrational as any other path :)

  • Oh I'm doing a similar movement. I'm a city boy and I'm trying to find a nice piece of land to buy in the countryside so I can plant stuff and raise chickens

    > time in my life has passed and I’ve come to view them as maybe overhyped

    It's overhyped for sure! But everything nowadays is overhyped. People treat technology as a panacea where it's just an extension of ourselves. If the self isn't balanced, nothing will be fulfilling (the meanings of a balanced self and a fulfilling experience I'm leaving intentionally open, because it varies from person to person).