Comment by cesarb

1 day ago

> Gemma is open source and apache 2.0 licensed.

Are you sure? On a quick look, it appears to use its own bespoke license, not the Apache 2.0 license. And that license appears to have field of use restrictions, which means it would not be classified as an open source license according to the common definitions (OSI, DFSG, FSF).

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jabroni_salad  7 hours ago

Perhaps we could rephrase my statement to "there are a bunch of green checkmarks on github that may or may not mean anything depending on who you ask."

yencabulator  6 hours ago

Wait, what files are you reading? https://github.com/google-deepmind/gemma/blob/main/LICENSE

(Even then, releasing some source code under Apache-2 does not make a model "open source".)

Ah I found https://ai.google.dev/gemma/terms

  > You must not use any of the Gemma Services:
  >
  > 1. for the restricted uses set forth in the Gemma Prohibited Use Policy at ai.google.dev/gemma prohibited_use_policy ("Prohibited Use Policy"), which is hereby incorporated by reference into this Agreement; or
  > 2. in violation of applicable laws and regulations.

https://ai.google.dev/gemma/prohibited_use_policy

Yeah, definitely not open source, even if they had released all the training data.