Comment by prmoustache

9 days ago

> Personally, I disagree with this approach. This is trying to solve a business problem (I can't trust cloud-providers)

It is not only a business problem. I stay away from cloud based services not only because of subscription model, but also because I want my data to be safe.

When you send data to a cloud service, and that data is not encrypted locally before being sent to the cloud (a rare feature), it is not a question of if but when that data will be pwned.

I have spent the last decade or so working in digital forensics and incident response for a series of well-known SaaS companies.

The experience has made me a big fan of self hosting.

"Trust about whether or not another company will maintain confidentiality" still sounds like a business problem to me (or at least one valid way of perceiving the problem)

And the biggest advantage I see of this perspective over the "technical problem" perspective is that assigning responsibility completely covers the problem space, while "hope that some clever math formula can magic the problem away" does not.

  • Here at HN, I think most people see it differently (me included): having clear math proof of "confidentiality" is usually seen as both cheaper and more trustworthy.

    Yes, there might be a breakthrough or a bug in encryption, and jnless you've been targetted, you can respond. But we've seen and experienced breakdowns in human character (employees spying on customers, stealing data...), government policies and company behaviour to trust the complexity and cost (lawyers) of enforcing accountability through policy.

    In general, you do need both, but if you've got one, to engineers, technical solution is usually more appealing.