{"id":44488060,"user":"4ndrewl","time":1751877520,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Even the verb 'trained' is contentious wrt anthropomorphism.","comments":[{"id":44488289,"user":"amelius","time":1751879675,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Somewhat true but rodents can also be trained ...","comments":[{"id":44488396,"user":"4ndrewl","time":1751880627,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Rodents aren't functions though?","comments":[{"id":44488917,"user":"FeepingCreature","time":1751886075,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Every computable system, even stateful systems, can be reformulated as a function.

If IO can be functional, I don't see why mice can't.","comments":[{"id":44489313,"user":"psychoslave","time":1751888814,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Well, that's a strong claim of equivalence between computationable models and realty.

The consensual view is rather that no map is matching fully the territory, or said otherwise the territory includes ontological components that exceeds even the most sophisticated map that can be ever built.","comments":[{"id":44489349,"user":"FeepingCreature","time":1751889040,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

I believe the consensus view is that physics is computable.","comments":[{"id":44489882,"user":"4ndrewl","time":1751892806,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

Thanks. I think the original point about the word 'trained' being contentious still stands, as evidenced by this thread :)","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=44489882"}],"comments_count":1,"level":4,"url":"item?id=44489349"}],"comments_count":2,"level":3,"url":"item?id=44489313"},{"id":44489966,"user":"tempfile","time":1751893443,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

So you think a rodent is a function?","comments":[{"id":44491062,"user":"FeepingCreature","time":1751900224,"time_ago":"6 months ago","type":"comment","content":"

I think that I am a function.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":4,"url":"item?id=44491062"}],"comments_count":1,"level":3,"url":"item?id=44489966"}],"comments_count":5,"level":2,"url":"item?id=44488917"}],"comments_count":6,"level":1,"url":"item?id=44488396"}],"comments_count":7,"level":0,"url":"item?id=44488289"}],"comments_count":8,"url":"item?id=44488060"}

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