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Comment by reliabilityguy

2 days ago

So, what are the actions that Palestinian government took to stop Israel? I mean, they were there to sign Oslo Accords, right? So, clearly they have a way to communicate and discuss issues to end this conflict. No?

The open secret that for some reason nobody is willing to acknowledge is that Palestinians will never accept even the borders of 1948 — for Palestinians it’s all or nothing. You won’t find even a single popular politician that is okay with peace deal for a simple reason — they do not want it.

So, what do you do?

What I did was remove my comment :)

Obviously there is no straightforward solution, and I don't want to fuel this anymore.

Contrary to what you're claiming, a major point of disagreement in all the peace negotiations has been that the Palestinians want the 1967 borders,[0] while the Israelis insist on taking considerable territory beyond those borders.

0. Which you referred to as the borders of 1948.

  • > Contrary to what you're claiming, a major point of disagreement in all the peace negotiations has been that the Palestinians want the 1967 borders

    Nope. They refused any deal, including the ones with a land swaps and capital in East Jerusalem.

    > while the Israelis insist on taking considerable territory beyond those borders.

    Israelis offered land for peace multiple times. Moreover, Israelis signed deals that were based on land for peace, e.g., Egypt. Palestinians got autonomy only to establish a "pay for slay" government-funded fund to incentivize more Palestinians to commit terrorist attacks.

    • The Palestinians offered peace many times. The Israelis refused. It goes both ways.

      One of the reasons why the Palestinians refused the Israeli offers was because the Israelis never offered the 1967 borders, which is what the Palestinians want. This is the exact opposite of what you're saying.

      > Moreover, Israelis signed deals that were based on land for peace, e.g., Egypt.

      The difference is that the Egyptians had a serious army that scared the bejeezus out of the Israelis is 1973. Israel only respects the language of force.

      > Palestinians got autonomy only to establish a "pay for slay"

      Israel has a massive "pay for slay" program. It's called the IDF.

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