Comment by aleph_minus_one

1 day ago

> Yes, they existed a long time ago and aren't wasteful as a way to generate "value".

Can you give me a literature reference for such a result, because this claim surprises me.

Of course Merkle trees existed long before - but they are just "cryptographically signed data structures", and thus don't solve the distributed consensus problem.

Of course eCash existed long before - but it depended on some central authority.

Of course distributed consensus algorithms existed long before - but they depended on the fact that all participants are trustable.

Thus, in my opinion Satoshi Nakamoto indeed made a really important scientific contribution for a quite specific algorithmic problem.

> Of course distributed consensus algorithms existed long before - but they depended on the fact that all participants are trustable.

No. They depended on the fact that all participants were known (in other words, the permissioned setting). Among those known ones, some (less than n/3) could go bonkers, all the way byzantine, and the honest nodes would still be guaranteed to find consensus (with consistency and availability).