Comment by gavinray

2 days ago

I've done it a few times. Unlike DMT, you don't have to vaporize it.

It's active intranasally and well as buccally/sublingually.

Effects-wise, it feels roughly identical to DMT but with a longer duration.

As someone who has done a lot of both (as well as drank ayahuasca several hundred times), they are completely different animals especially at the full-dose levels.

I found it significantly less visual. As in, about as immersive, but somewhat lacking visual depth/detail to things. But everyone's different anyway.

To me it feels like a completely different drug compared to nnDMT. 5-meo-DMT also feels very different depending on the roa from my experience (vaped vs IM)

  • Ah, a fellow "I've IM'ed tryptamines" person.

    I made this mistake exactly once, with 4-AcO-DMT.

    That was the last time I ever did such a thing.

  • Expand on roa effect difference?

    • It’s a little difficult to describe as 5-meo-DMT is not a visual type of trip. In fact I get almost no visuals from it even at relatively high doses.

      I would describe 5-meo as a trip that gives you an immediate understanding of how life and the universe “works” at a very fundamental level. Your perception changes from analytical type thinking to all of a sudden just knowing how everything fits together and how you can control reality around you. A bit like pulling the curtain back and seeing the source code of realty but then also intuitively knowing how to manipulate and rewrite it and seeing the effects of that in real time.

      I wish I could explain it better.

      In terms of ROA between vaping and IM get the same type of knowing but from a different perspective. Injected feels like your personal programming code gets rewritten and you have a reality shift to having administrator privileges while vaped feels like the person that wrote the code is a co-pilot in your head explaining how the code is written and how it executes to present as reality to you.

      There’s definitely a lot of overlap between each roa type though.

      What I describe above is also my experience after dozens of trips with 5-Meo. The first few were definitely more confusing and at times overwhelming as the perspective shift can be severe. Once you get experienced though it’s a fun way to cruise around in “reality”