Comment by Levitz

On both of those cases there tends to be an abundance of comments denigrating either character in unhinged, Reddit-style manner.

As far as I am concerned they are both clowns, which is precisely why I don't want to have to choose between correcting stupid claims thereby defending them, and occasionally have an offshoot of r/politics around. I honestly would rather have all discussion related to them forbidden than the latter.

I don't think it takes any manipulation for people to be exhausted with that general dynamic either.