Comment by adidoit
2 days ago
Not sure if it's coincidental that OpenAI's open weights release got delayed right after an ostensibly excellent open weights model (Kimi K2) got released today.
https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
OpenAI know they need to raise the bar with their release. It can't be a middle-of-the-pack open weights model.
They might also be focusing all their work on beating Grok 4 now, since xAi has a significant edge in accumulating computing power and they opened a considerable gap in raw intelligence tests like ARC and HLE. OpenAI is in this to win the competitive race, not the open one.
> They might also be focusing all their work on beating Grok 4 now,
With half the key team members they had a month prior
I'm starting to think talent is way less concentrated in these individuals than execs would have investors believe. While all those people who left OpenAI certainly have the ability to raise ridiculous sums of venture capital in all sorts of companies, Anthropic remains the only offspring that has actually reached a level where they can go head-to-head with OpenAI. Zuck now spending billions on snatching those people seems more like a move out of desperation than a real plan.
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Dont be mechahitler?
Yet it suspiciously can't draw a pelican?
You forgot the on a bicycle part.
simonw is going to force every competitive LLM to over-ingest cartoon svg pelicans before this is over!
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Btw why is there no k2 discussion on HN? Isn’t it pretty huge news?
There is, but it’s not on the front page so you don’t find it unless you go through multiple pages or manually search it up.
Moonshot ai has released banger models without much noise about it. Like for example Kimi K1.5, it was quite impressive at the time
probably because maybe 1 or 2 folks on here can run it? It's 1000B model, if 16bit training then you need 2000b of GPU vram to run it. Or about 80 5090s hooked up to the same machine. Or 20 of them to run it in Q2.
Still more accessible then fully closed models.
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Why don’t you start one?
had to search for the discussion, it's here, seems like nobody noticed it and it only couple hundred upvotes.
Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44533403
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This could be it, especially since they announced last week that it would be the best open-source model.
Technically they were right when they said it, in their minds. Things are moving so fast that in a week, it will be true again.
Every openai model since gpt4 has been behind the curve by miles