Comment by gsf_emergency_2

1 day ago

I kinda blame the fact that, after zooming out to national or party level,

   Anyone who speaks favorably about marginalized groups is dropped into the "anti-institution" box

(Otoh this is mitigated by my observation that, e.g., liberal christians are recognized by the influential on the right to be prosocial-- and by themselves to be basically pro-institution.)

This is why you need a Mamdani to convince the center-left that it's not divisive to do so (& it's great that he's prioritizing the economic marginalization angle)

With Harris there is another mixed signal independent of her stage skills: swingvoters cannot decide if she is pro-or anti-institution (support from people like Powell-Jobs is counter-productive)

(Aside: let me know if that was confused)

As mentioned by Ezra Klein, Trump is a moderate-- my additional take is that he is intentionally so. Due to dark traits he knows to kayfabe extremism-- this provokes the divisive elements on the voting left, but the politically influential on the right do not see this as anti-institution

Trump is no moderate. He’s been a racist since the 80s when he advocated 5 black and Latino guys get Capital punishment for a crime they were later found not to have committed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park...

He started the dog whistle campaign of Obama not being an American way before he thought about running for President.

He’s been pro tariff since the 90s also.

During his first run and his first time in office, the institutionalist wing of the Republican Party fought him tooth and nail.

  • Sorry! That was careless phrasing. Thank you for fuzzing the careless thinking behind it. It should have been

       "Trump is now seen (and wants to be seen) by the right+(white) center left as moderate"
    

    Is that more reasonable?

    Imho Ezra Klein explains it better here https://youtu.be/Sx0J7dIlL7c?t=53m6s

    (Is he going for "Leto I Atreides"?)