Comment by cornstalks
1 year ago
> green being sunlight's brightest component.
It actually peaks between magenta and blue: https://sunwindsolar.com/blog/solar-radiation-spectrum/
Green is only bright to us because of our cone sensitivities overlapping.
> It actually peaks between magenta and blue
No, it actually peaks wherever you want it to peak, depending on how you plot it: https://www.oceanopticsbook.info/view/light-and-radiometry/l...
From the link, what appears to be the crux of the issue:
> Figure 1 shows plots of [solar] energy irradiance as functions of both wavelength and frequency. The red line is the solar irradiance at the top of the atmosphere. The green curve in the left panel is the corresponding blackbody irradiance for a temperature of 5782 K, reduced by the distance of the Earth from the Sun
> The peak of the blackbody irradiance spectrum is at 501 nm for a temperature of 5782 K. This corresponds to a frequency of ν = c/λ = 5.98 ⋅ 10¹⁴ Hz.
> The right panel of the plot shows the same solar data plotted as a function of frequency, along with the corresponding blackbody spectrum
> Note that when plotted as a function of frequency, the solar and blackbody spectra have their maxima near 3.40 ⋅ 10¹⁴ Hz, which is not the frequency corresponding to the maximum when plotted as a function of wavelength in the left panel. Indeed, 3.40 ⋅ 10¹⁴ Hz corresponds to a wavelength of λ = c/ν = 880 nm.
> In other words, when plotted as a function of wavelength, the solar irradiance is a maximum near 500 nm, in the visible, whereas the maximum is at 880 nm, in the near infrared, when the spectrum is plotted as a function of frequency.
[emphasis original]
> This occurs because the relationship between wavelength and frequency is not linear, so that a unit wavelength interval corresponds to a different size of frequency interval for each wavelength: ∣dν∣ = ∣c / λ² dλ∣.
However, it continues:
> Figure 2 shows the solar photon irradiance [number of photons per second, as opposed to number of joules delivered per second] and the corresponding blackbody spectra
> Now the maximum is at 635 nm when plotted as a function of wavelength and at 1563 nm, in the short-wave infrared, when plotted as a function of frequency. The maxima are at still different locations if the spectra are plotted as a function of wavenumber.
This time the emphasis is mine. This contradicts the explanation given above, that the curve peaks in different places along different scales because those scales are nonlinearly related. The relationship between wavenumber and frequency is linear. Why does that lead to a different plotted peak?
Are we measuring wavenumber somewhere within the atmosphere (where?), rather than in a vacuum? That would mean that different frequencies of light had different velocities, complicating the relationship between frequency and wavenumber. But it would also be a strangely artifactual way to represent solar irradiance. What's so special about wherever it is that we standardized wavenumber measurements?
Irradiance is a density function - it's telling you how much energy or how many photons are hitting a given area per unit of the dependent/spectral variable (you can see this by inspecting the units in the plots, for instance).
This means that changes of variable come with an additional factor - the Jacobian. You cannot simply substitute the relationship directly into the formula for the one spectral variable, like you would for a "point function" (you need to account for the change of unit in the y-axis too, if you like, not just the x-axis).
It's not explained well but this is fundamentally what causes the moving peaks.
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That graph shows sunlight in the upper atmosphere, but at sea level, the 400-450 nanometer blues are partially scattered out. The peak we see on the ground is broader, and centered more around 450-550 nanometers, a range that tends more towards teal or "Miami green". Wikipedia shows both spectra:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight#/media/File:Solar_spe...
I think this is also why the sky appears to be a deeper, darker blue at higher altitudes.
The chart I linked shows both upper atmosphere and sea level irradiance, for what it's worth. Though it's possible the chart simply isn't the most accurate. I only did casual research.
Doing more research, looking at [1] (the data source for that Wikipedia image), it looks like the peak is between 480 nm (cyan) and 540 nm (lime green) for "global tilt" and 480 nm to 580 nm (yellow) for "direct + circumsolar" (I have no idea what the difference is between "global tilt" and "direct + circumsolar").
Interesting. It seems like the chart in my original comment isn't as precise as I believed.
[1]: https://www.nrel.gov/grid/solar-resource/spectra-am1.5
I may have been a bit lazy there and imagined the distribution as Gaussian despite having seen charts that indicate otherwise. I'm glad you pointed that out.
But the question remains... Why do plants reflect light so well at the frequency where my cone sensitivities overlap? Mere coincidence would be believable, but it seems to also hint at something about the relationship between myself and those plants.
You have a kind of cone with maximum sensitivity in green, because that is what plants reflect, not the other way around.
You have another kind of cone with maximum sensitivity in blue, because that is what the clear sky provides.
So a mammal looking upwards (or forward for a tree-dwelling animal) can distinguish easily leaves from sky.
Monkeys and us have another kind of cone with maximum sensitivity in red for 2 reasons, blood is red and many mature fruits have reddish colors (including orange and purple).
The redness of blood matters not only for noticing wounds, but also for detecting emotions on the faces of mates or adversaries (due to increased blood flow; for some monkeys the emotions may be seen not only on faces, but also on other hairless areas, e.g. buttocks).
We often hear about the relationship between perception of red and berries (food). Perhaps for survival in very dry areas: green == plants == water?