Comment by crazy5sheep

> We left product development teams without anyone focused on production. We undid everything that made DevOps work in the first place.

Very good point, that's the same I have observed for the past couple of years when working on a devops team. Product team engineers nowadays feels like spoiled kids, they had no current how server runs, and asked for things unreasonable. I still remembered someone came to my desk and asked for me to increase the mem request to 10s of GB, he claimed that's the best solution he could think of is to load everything in mem.. and very often people don't even know what status code means 500, 502, 503, 504...