Comment by llm_nerd

8 months ago

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>Ignoring that almost all of these orgs are also building web apps

Poorly, but yes. You can say they have something reseming a web app.

>several of the major frameworks can share the majority of code with PWA apps.

But as we should all know, it's not enough to press a button and deploy perfectly. You gotta fix all thr quirks, and that's where most of the budget for a dedicated team back in the day went. Not so much these days.

>Yet despite Android making up like 75% of the market....almost no PWAs have any traction at all. It's almost like it isn't Apple's fault.

75% isn't enough when targeting 100% of the market. And this decade isn't a good example of how companies are trying to win customers over with quality and care.

>Can you cite what you're talking about?

Straight from the horses' mouth: https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/

Can't get more term-Y than "you can't do this here".

>It isn't Apple's fault, as boring and constant as that cry is.

It's not apples fault in the same way it's not their fault Flash died. they didn't land the killing blow, but they sure did slice some limbs off.

You seem too obsessed with thinking that there's this "android exclusive "market to appeal to to really understand my argument on how app development and support actually works in practice, so I'll leave it at that metaphor.

  • >But as we should all know, it's not enough to press a button and deploy perfectly. You gotta fix all thr quirks, and that's where most of the budget for a dedicated team back in the day went. Not so much these days.

    Have you ever worked on a project that targets both Android and iDevices? Close to none of them are just one magical code base that hits both devices. Overwhelmingly there is an enormous amount of custom code for each platform. You are propping up a myth to support this ridiculous contention.

    >75% isn't enough when targeting 100% of the market.

    Only garbage apps target "100%" of the market with one app. Again, I feel like I'm talking to people who have never, ever touched a mobile app.

    >Straight from the horses' mouth

    You literally linked to the app policies. That has zero relevance for PWAs.

    The fact that my upper level comment got flagged, hilariously, betrays how utterly delusional, detached from reality, and just nonsensical almost all discussions on this are. It is always portrayed against a mythical strawman (the magic "only one app magically targets everyone, that no one is actually doing it").

    PWAs fail because they're usually bad, and web development teams usually have horrifying attitudes towards users. It has nothing to do with Apple.