Comment by watwut
13 days ago
If the "rightie libertarians" from sibling is correct, then it actually describe the dynamic I have noticed.
It is free speech as long as you are politically right, no matter how far extreme right you are or what you are saying. But, if you are left or oppose the far right, then criticizing those is not free speech, but rather a restriction on it. Suddenly you should shut up, all sorts of additional rules apply to you. It is wrong to argue with far right, to say things that are uncomfortable for them or call them names, call them nazi even when it is clearly the case. But if you are just a little radical feminist, you are valid target for any amount of abuse which suddenly counts as free speech. Your leftist or feminist speech does not count as valid free speech.
Eventually, it started to look like "free speech" is tactically used expression to create an asymmetry and applies only to certain ideas. Or certain people ideas.
I don't understand what you're getting at.
You're saying some "dynamic" of people you have noticed do not really support free speech in some cases?
Lots of people don't support free speech. My original post bemoaned exactly that.
I am saying that "I support free speech" ended up associated with "I am pro far right, but do not want to openly admit so, but I will gladly accept suppression of left, progressives, liberals and anyone who criticizes right".
And that eventually we realized that "old school free speech groups" just wanted to shut up opposition to far right.
It ended up associated with the far right, by people on the left who are against free speech I suppose, yes.
> And that eventually we realized that "old school free speech groups" just wanted to shut up opposition to far right.
That's untrue.
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