Comment by p_ing

8 days ago

This only gives you USB 2.0 speeds. If that's not a concern, then this is a good upgrade.

Lightning only ever supported USB 2.0. Theoretically, the free serial pins could’ve been used for the SuperSpeed 3.0 pins, but Apple never did.

  • They supported superspeed for the lightning iPad pros by doubling the number of pins (top and bottom rows)

    Only the lightning to usb3 camera adapter used them

    • I think it's also notable that the iPad Pro never supported usb 3 client either. The iPad Pro had a separate USB3 host controller, and so only supported that camera adapter. There was never a USB-A (or C) 3.0 to Lightning cable.

I would assume the vast majority of people aren't doing anything serious with their USB ports on a phone....

  • It did take 8 hours to do a migration of data from my wife's 256GB iPhone 14 (lightning) to her iPhone 15 Pro this year, so that's at least one "serious" thing. I am so glad to be rid of that cursed Lightning port. Now I just have to come up with a good excuse to replace the younger child's tablet, despite it working fine. It is so frustrating to have to maintain special charging cables just for certain devices especially when you know it was a deliberate and cynical choice by the vendor. Thank goodness for the EU forcing this matter.

    • Taking eight hours to migrate the data is almost certainly a software issue. Assuming the phone is completely full, transferring 256GB over USB 2.0 (480Mbit/sec, or 60MB/sec) should take about an hour and 15 minutes.

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    • The EU did not force the matter. They trotted out in front of the parade and pretended to lead it.

      Apple switched a year before required, and not coincidentally, ten years after promising that Lightning would be the connector “for the next decade” so as to reduce fears from those who were angry about being “forced” to replace their 30-pin peripherals.

      I don’t know why tech enthusiasts tend toward conspiratorial thinking, but certainly if Apple had obsoleted Lightning after only 8 years, many of these same people would be professing outrage and demanding class action lawsuits over such a greedy deceit.

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  • IMHO it is a learned habit that will change as limitations are lifted.

    Plugging a SD card reader to one's phone instead of pulling out the laptop to push the images to the cloud for instance. You do it once, and will be immediately convince of the advantages.

  • I have a portable external monitor with two USB C ports. It can get power and video from one USB port.

    I can plug it up to my iPhone 16 Pro Max using the same standard USB cord. With a phone, it can only power the display up to 50% brightness by itself. If I plug power into the second USB C port, it will show the display up to 100% and charge my phone.

    https://imgur.com/a/6g1QOkT

    Having USB C also means I can use a standard USB C to HDMI cord for TVs and use the same cord for my computer. Not to mention all of the other standard USB protocols like audio, mass storage, Ethernet, etc. that just work.

    • It's also funny that the Lightning to HDMI adapters had to add hardware to decode a compressed video stream from the Lightning port.

      It's basically a wired AirPlay adapter. That's why they cost so much.

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