Comment by tsoukase
10 hours ago
Classic case of abuse from a higher rank male of a female. Jon thought 'Oh, let's have some sex for a weekend after all that bla bla events'. The girl was in a vulnerable position (far from home, first time attending, relatively poor) and coming from a different culture, young-a-inexperienced.
The whole case lies in the spectrum between 'man abuses woman' to 'possible rape' depending on personal beliefs. My opinion: Jon had to receive a good lesson of how to behave correctly to women (esp. ensure a 'balance of power and position') but not such a hard one that destroyed his life.
> The girl was in a vulnerable position (far from home, first time attending, relatively poor) and coming from a different culture
I'll grant you young (although as far as I can gather that was 21 years, so 5 years older than mature and sensible enough to vote in the UK), but how do any of the others contribute to this vague "vulnerability"? How does not knowing the geography, or being at a conference the first time (a tech conference is not like a jungle expedition where experience is key...), or being of modest means, make it harder to discriminate sexual partners? This "vulnerable" only applies to someone like a spy that has to deftly navigate the city and social interactions to complete a mission, not a regular attendee.
> from a higher rank male of a female
You know this wasn't the army, right? He wasn't even her employer.
Definitely agree with you. It might be my wording due to being a foreigner.
In the distant past and in a different situation I almost abused a girl with the same 'vibe' as Jon. Definitely it's not a crime. But it opens the can of worms if the other party does not like it and it might escalate. It should have stopped for him at the stage of public berating (again the wording)