Comment by connicpu

6 months ago

Great, scooters are much less likely to kill pedestrians during collisions. I'm glad more people who didn't actually need 2 ton metal boxes are downsizing to something more practical.

Great, now I'll have the 0.02% chance of surviving a collision with a scooter that slaloms on any possible walkable terrain, instead of a 0.01% chance of surviving a collision with a car that won't hit me because they don't drive on sidewalks.

  • Scooters shouldn't feel the need to drive on sidewalks when the speed limit is 30km/h

    • They do it for the same reason cyclists do it. They value their safety and comfort over the pedestrians'. Riding in the road means cars, riding on the sidewalk means people who will jump out of your way.

[flagged]

  • yes, famously no society has ever managed to have children without widespread private car ownership.

  • This has to be the most American comment ever.

    Society will collapse no less due to minor inconveniences!!

  • Ah yes, because mowing down kids is somehow pro family?

    I live car free in a Dutch suburb with two small kids and do so specifically so our kids could have a better life than crappy American suburbia.

  • > Make it hard for people to have families and society will collapse

    I used to live in Amsterdam which has a great public transport, great cycling paths, and limits of 30km/h. People are going cycling to school, on dates, and picnic with their families. Associating having a 3 ton gas guzzler as a prerequisite of having a family and a roadblock of "society" is only a question of poor imagination.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/six-health-lessons-learn-net...

    There are multiple reasons Americans are obese as hell and living shorter than us Europeans, and driving everywhere is one of it.

    • Some areas such as Amsterdam though are just naturally more ammenable to walking, cycling, and transit. Cycling in 90+ (F) temperatures with high humidity (very common in the summer in the US midwest or south), or even just walking very far or waiting very long for a bus is pretty miserable. I'd arrive at my destination literally dripping with sweat and really unpresentable.

      7 replies →

  • Yes. There were no families before carriages… /s

    A carless society/city is way more family-oriented.