Comment by Mawr

7 months ago

> So in other words, your city made it extremely inconvenient to use anything BUT bikes to get around. Which is exactly my point.

No, most cities worldwide are designed to make using anything but a car to get around extremely inconvenient. Best seen in the US.

> I guess you have zero kids, and your country has a collapsing population?

Is there anything about kids in particular that makes them unable to walk and/or bike?

The really young kids go into strollers and bike/cargo bike seats.

> My neighborhood just got bikelaned. Now I have a traffic jam outside of my house half of the day, delaying thousands of people for at least 10 minutes every _day_. The local bus now takes 10 minutes more on average for the roundtrip. And all that for 30 meters of bike lanes.

A narrowing of a single traffic lane on a 30m stretch causes all that? That's obviously untrue.

> And all that for 30 meters of bike lanes. That is almost entirely unused because it ends up against the bottom of a steep hill.

Yeah a bike path that's not connected to a bike path network is of zero use. But then Rome wasn't built in a day was it?

> Is there anything about kids in particular that makes them unable to walk and/or bike?

Time and inconvenience if you're not using a car. It more-or-less requires a full-time commitment from at least one parent. That's why you see a sharp drop in large families in cities.

> The really young kids go into strollers and bike/cargo bike seats.

Try that with 2 or 3 children.

> Yeah a bike path that's not connected to a bike path network is of zero use. But then Rome wasn't built in a day was it?

It is connected. We literally buried about 200 million dollars into building a bike network that spans the city. It sits unused, not even replacing the traffic that it displaced. The percentage of bike commutes is around 2-5% depending on the survey, almost identical to 10 years ago.

But the good news is that our downtown is now full of shuttered storefronts, with most commercial blocks having at least one available for lease.