Comment by api

1 year ago

Why is fertility so low in Iran then? Or very Catholic Poland? It does not seem to correlate strongly with religion or belief systems.

The strongest correlation I see is urbanization. People in cities don’t have kids as much.

Anecdotal observation / hypothesis:

- there's an inverse relationship between quality of life and density, even within individual households

- there's a higher premium on space in urbanized areas than in rural areas

- there's been a move towards urbanization across the world, high HDI, low HDI, high religion, low religion

I propose something similar to Parkinson's Law: Average family size expands (or contracts) to fill the physical space that is economically viable for a given individual/family.

Rationally, this couldn't be the only factor, given density and urbanization patterns predate the more rapid fertility decline in recent decades, but as one more factor on top of a pile of others that may also be contributing to the trend, I think it could plausibly play a contributing role in the decline.

Thoughts?

  • I think it matters in how you define quality of life, for one.

    Take a family of five kids and give them a bedroom for each kid when young and they’ll end up clustering in one or two.

    I think space and other pressures may have their place as causes, but are mostly downstream from whatever the root issues are.

    • >Take a family of five kids and give them a bedroom for each kid when young and they’ll end up clustering in one or two.

      Do you have anecdata on this? I grew up with a single sibling, and we had to share a room as young children due to economic circumstances, but we were both very excited to get our own rooms when our parents bought a larger house.

      I have no kids of my own and don't plan on having any, but I'm fascinated by this perspective.

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Educated women tend to have fewer children.

(Also fewer child deaths)

  • Educated men also father fewer children. Takes two. Educated people with the means will choose when to reproduce.