Comment by JumpCrisscross

1 day ago

> You cannot sign away your right to privacy any more than you can sign away your right to life

You can literally do both in the EU with informed consent.

No, you can't.

Informed consent is (1) always going to be specific and (2) ends when the legal base for procession is no longer supported.

  • Struggling to see the relevance of both constraints when it comes to assisted death.

    • I'm not going to fault you for that, but no, you really can not sign away your right-to-life even with assisted death. The process is explicitly tooled around this to ensure that people's rights are not violated. I am not saying that there will never be a mistake made here or even that that has not possibly already happened but in principle your right-to-life is not violated by this procedure, and I realize that I will not be able to convince you otherwise.

      That requires a complete re-thinking of your moral framework if you are not familiar with the concept.

      Just like for some people gay marriage is inconceivable and results in them being ready to man the barricades and for others it doesn't even move the needle. And then there is abortion and bodily autonomy. Large swathes of humanity are not going to be able to understand the remainder when it comes to those subjects, they all arrive at their own conclusions through a mixture of tradition, religion, philosophy and cultural exposure (media, mostly) as well as peer pressure.

      I've long ago decided that the only party that will hopefully be able to get all of those right using an objective frame of reference will be born a few thousand years from now, assuming humanity will make it that far.

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    • Please stop this sophistry. Assisted dying is in no way comparable to "signing away your right to life". Even if you want to reduce it to such black and white phrasing (which, quite frankly, makes you come across as an asshole), it's actually asserting ultimate control over your own life. At no point in that process are other people allowed to perform acts not specifically authorized by you.