Comment by Y_Y

3 months ago

> @whatwg whatwg locked as too heated and limited conversation to collaborators

Too heated? Looked pretty civil and reasonable to me. Would it be ridiculous to suggest that the tolerance for heat might depend on how commenters are aligned with respect to a particular vendor?

"too heated" is a codeword for "we don't want to deal with dissenting opinions". Same on other forums, e.g. Reddit.

It's a little jarring that the 1 comment visible underneath that is a "Nice, thanks for working on this!", and if you click on the user that wrote it, it's someone working for Google on Chrome... sheesh, kiss-ass much?

There was a discussion they opened to "gather community feedback" just three weeks ago. That one did get heated: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11523

Google ignored everything, pushed on with the removal, and now pre-emptively closed this discussion, too

  • > Google ignored everything, pushed on with the removal, and now pre-emptively closed this discussion, too

    To be fair to Google, they've consistently steam-rolled the standards processes like that for as long as I can remember, so it really isn't new.

FYI, I heard that it was Apple employees who administer that repo that marked those comments as off topic and locked the thread, but people are attributing that to the Google employee that opened the issue.

I disagree - I saw a number of comments I would consider rude and unprofessional and once a PR gets posted on HN, frankly it typically gets much worse.

I find people on HN are often very motivated reasoners when it comes to judging civility, but there’s basically no excuse for calling people “fuckers” or whatever.

> Why do people create such joke PRs?

> We didn't forgot your decade of fuckeries, Google.

> You wanted some heated comment? You are served.

> the JavaScript brainworm that has destroyed the minds of the new generation

> the covert war being waged by the WHATWG

> This is nothing short of technical sabotage, and it’s a disgrace.

> breaking yet another piece of the open web you don't find convenient for serving people ads and LLM slop.

> Are Google, Apple, Mozilla going to pay for the additional hosting costs incurred by those affected by the removal of client-side XSLT support?

> Hint: if you don't want to be called out on your lies, don't lie.

> Evil big data companies who built their business around obsoleting privacy. Companies who have built their business around destroying freedom and democracy.

> Will you side with privacy and freedom or will you side with dictatorship?

Bullshit like this has no place in an issue tracker. If people didn’t act like such children in a place designed for productive conversation, then maybe the repo owners wouldn’t be so trigger happy.