Comment by GeoAtreides

1 day ago

It's not elitist to remark that people tech skills are atrophying. The zoomers literally have memes about how bad are at tech stuff.

Setting a VPN is 100% not trivial, I know that because I recently set up a wireguard vpn on a VPS. Not impossible, sure, but out of the reach for a normal person.

Sure, one can ask a techie friend (if one's has a techie friend capable of self-hosting a VPN). So now instead of the gov ban covering 90% of the population, it covers what? 85%? 80%?

All self-hosted tools will not make a difference. Selling turnkey tools will be banned.

You can't win against the government. Not in 2025.

I think there's a good chance that when normies have to upload a picture of their real life ID to watch a funny tiktok or read a tweet they might start looking into VPNs.

Right now most of the privacy violations are covert and everyone is dishonest. Nobody reads TOS or EULA, Google just say "pinky promise we're not mean!", etc.

But there's no way to automate scanning someone's face to view a Garfield comic.

Governments are getting far too cavalier. They're flying too close to the sun here. They've already gotten away with murder and then some, they should quit while they're ahead.

Their greed will be their downfall. People will eventually push back.

>It's not elitist to remark that people tech skills are atrophying.

It is elitist though to not go into why that's the case and instead just assume it's because, what, people are dropping in IQ? A lot of (though not all granted) the cause boils down to the same reason as mechanical skills (engine repair and such) atrophying: lack of need. Things have gotten very polished for the average use case. Most people don't need to know all the inner workings, but that's not necessarily a bad thing right? I can remember easily in the 90s and much of the 00s when many OS crashed if you looked at them funny and had some pretty funky edges, and the state of the art advanced so fast diving into the internals was important. And it was great fun for me and I miss a lot of it. However it made life a lot harder for someone who only wanted an appliance tool, and now that's the changed. But while when comfortable a lot of us have a tendency to coast, as we see in disaster after disaster folks can get extremely inventive and learn in a real hurry if they experience enough motivation.

>Sure, one can ask a techie friend (if one's has a techie friend capable of self-hosting a VPN).

lol what? Why on earth would that be necessary?

>Selling turnkey tools will be banned.

I'm American. The british crown can kiss my red, white and blue ass. Just as with tor, I will contribute for free just to stick it in their authoritarian eye. As well as services from huge parts of the rest of the planet that aren't the UK, there is no reason there won't be fully open source apps where you put in a VPS API key and it does the rest and spits out a profile for you the end. On the contrary that's technically trivial, but there hasn't been that kind of need amongst the developed world.

The UK government will have to go all the way to the level of China for it to work like you're claiming, if they're even capable of that.

  • >It is elitist though to not go into why that's the case and instead just assume it's because, what, people are dropping in IQ?

    Nowhere in my comment did I mention or assumed IQ, that's all you.

One techie can resell his vpn to other people.

  • please re-read my comment

    >Selling turnkey tools will be banned

    you can't escape the state financial control, it's impossible

    sure, you can do it on a very very small scale, but nothing that would have any impact