Comment by sokoloff

1 year ago

The government has the direct power to imprison me or seize my property if cross them.

It seems strange to not be able to grasp the difference in kind here.

And what technology do you think they use to do said imprisonment and seizing?

Why do you think the military and police outsource fucking everything to the private sector? Because there are no rules there.

Wanna make the brown people killer 5000 drone? Sure, go ahead. Wanna make a facial crime recognition system that treats all black faces as essentially the same? Sure, go ahead. Wanna run mass censorship and propaganda campaigns? Sure, go ahead.

The private sector does not abide by the constitution.

Look, stamping out a protest and rolling tanks is hard. Its gonna get on the news, it's gonna be challenged in court, the constitution exists, it's just a whole thing.

Just ask Meta to do it. Probably more effective anyway.

What happens if your Google account is locked out because you shared your son's pictures to his M.D. because of an ongoing treatment?

What happens the same company locks all your book drafts because an algorithm deemed that you're plotting something against someone?

Both are real events, BTW.

  • I think I missed the part where Google imprisoned someone.

    The government forces me to do business with them; if I don't pay them tens (and others hundreds) of thousands of dollars every year they will send people with guns to imprison me and eventually other people with guns to seize my property.

    Me willingly giving Google some data and them capriciously deciding to not always give it back doesn't seem anything like the same to me. (It doesn't mean I like what Google's doing, but they have nowhere near the power of the group that legally owns and uses tanks.)

    • Their life effectively stopped since they are locked out of everything, forever. Not forgetting that the first guy's son's pictures are ended in a CSAM database and he lost his account permanently, and Google didn't give his account back [0].

      A company "applied what the law said", and refused that they made a mistake and overreached. Which is generally attributed to governments.

      So, I you missed the effects of this little binary flag on their life.

      [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...

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