Comment by rkomorn
1 year ago
I think any switch from opt-out-by-default to opt-in-by-default sucks, especially when it has no clear immediate benefit to the person being opted in.
Disclaimer: not a Claude user (not even a prospective one)
1 year ago
I think any switch from opt-out-by-default to opt-in-by-default sucks, especially when it has no clear immediate benefit to the person being opted in.
Disclaimer: not a Claude user (not even a prospective one)
> any switch from opt-out-by-default to opt-in-by-default sucks
It’s the reverse. This was opt-in and is now opt-out. Opt means choose so when “the default is opt-in” it means the option is “no” by default and you have the option to make it “yes”.
> they're now opt-out rather than opt-in to your data being used for training
This is what the comment I was replying to said. I took that to mean "you have to opt out (ie you're opted in by default)".
The meaning of the term "opt-in" is that it is off by default and has to be manually enabled. "opt-out" means it is on by default and you have to manually turn it off. "opt-in-by-default" or "opted in by default" are needlessly confusing.
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i think skepticism is healthy, but they've handled this in a fairer way than any other online product i've used before.
they gave me a popup to agree to the ToS change, but I can ignore it for a month and still use the product. In the popup, they clearly explained the opt-out switch, which is available in the popup itself as well as in the settings.
I don't think it's good, but people both here and on reddit are acting like this is some Great Betrayal when it's just a single switch that they prominently present to you. If they're going to make this change, this is exactly how I'd want them to do it.
> If they're going to make this change
Feels like the complaint is precisely that people don’t want them to make this change.
> this is exactly how I'd want them to do it.
Sees naive to believe it will always be done like this, especially for new users.
First off, I don't think going into the settings and flipping a toggle switch once is a huge burden on those who want to use a service privately. But more importantly, some of the comments here are so hysterical I have to assume that they read the title and jumped to the conclusion that you cannot opt out anymore without a business account.