Comment by toasterlovin

1 month ago

> The real problem is that @gmail.com or @icloud.com are now required to participate in society

They absolutely are not, though. I've been fully bought into the Apple ecosystem for nearly 2 decades and have used a Fastmail email address with it for the last decade (when I ditched my MobileMe email address). Similarly, I have never had an @gmail.com email address, though I've used various Google products.

They meant an apple or Google account, not literally the email address.

Try to live without an Apple ID or Google account. Probably about as difficult as living without an ID.

  • Then the argument is just that you need an Apple or Google account to use Apple or Google products. But that's widely true across all kinds of companies and product categories. I need a Microsoft account to use XBox, I need an account to pay my water bill, I need an account to use my home security system, etc. People expect products and services to have internet connected features. Accounts are what allow that to happen.

    • > People expect products and services to have internet connected features. Accounts are what allow that to happen.

      Why do I need an Apple/Google account to use my bank account? I can't even log in from a web browser anymore.

      That's my entire original point.

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