Comment by anonym29

8 months ago

Apple is very explicitly and deliberately building their systems to forcibly collect massive amounts of user data that they can and do provide to the federal government.

While it is true that close to all companies will comply with lawful orders (but not EVERY company, FWIW: Lavabit famously shut down instead of handing over SSL keys to feds), it is possible to design systems in such a way as to protect FAR more user data privacy than Apple does. Case in point: review the contents of Signal's subpoena response a few years ago:

- https://signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/

This isn't a sham privacy claim like the kind made by Apple that requires you to trust the provider, either. Signal's clients are famously open source - something Apple does not do for pretty much any part of iOS or Mac OS:

- https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android

- https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS

- https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Desktop

Additionally, most of the Signal server's source code (nix the anti-spam components) is open source, as well as the libsignal library used across the clients and server alike:

- https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Desktop

- https://github.com/signalapp/libsignal

Apple could be this transparent if they wanted to. They choose not to be, because the truth is, they do not actually care about user privacy, they are constantly collecting massive amounts of telemetry, user data, and user metadata from every single device they make, and they have been proven to share this data extensively with the federal government via the Snowden leaks, even in spite of the few actions they take publicly to maintain the marketing illusion of being a company that cares about user privacy, such as in the wake of the San Bernardino shooting.

Why is Apple taking the harder route then? Like having Maps go through proxies and get the route in small bits so that Apple's servers don't know who is going where, for example?

Meanwhile Google is giving you notifications about "would you like to review <this exact tiny shop you were just in>", because they are the good guys?

  • For the same reason the TSA exists: theater.

    The TSA performs security theater, where they take the harder route, yet fail to even detect, let alone stop 95%+ of yesterday's threats, to say nothing of today's or tomorrow's threats:

    - https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/1/8701741/tsa-screenings-hom...

    Apple performs privacy theater, where they take the harder route, yet extensively log user data and share it with federal intelligence agencies:

    - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...

    As for the deeper why: it's more important to the US government for passengers to feel safe than it is for passengers to actually be truly safe.

    Likewise, it's more profitable for Apple to make its customers feel their data is private than it is for Apple to make their customers data actually be truly private.

    Apple is not privacy-preserving company.

    Apple is marketed as a privacy-preserving company.