Comment by mystraline
5 months ago
Deflock is a thing. https://discord.gg/2Ug7KC2R
There's a lot of local Flock maps out there. You can also submit your own.
For those who are more inclined to direct protest, you can spraypaint the lenses and/or the solar panels. If you dont want to get caught with spraypaint, use nutella or peanut butter. Its sticky and easily spreadable. Not that I would ever recommend vandalization.
Sure, the EFF and ACLU are going the legal route. That's all they can do.
Why not link to an actual map such as https://deflock.me/ instead of a walled garden that is likely a surveillance and data mining platform?
Does Discord have a public API
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.00627
See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man%20made=surveilla...
> Deflock is a thing. https://discord.gg/2Ug7KC2R
Can you describe what this is?
If this is related to your other point about spraypainting lenses, I don't want to accidentally start clicking links for Discords about vandalizing government operations from my home IP address.
So if you're scared to even look at countermeasures, they've already won.
Discord is known for banning accounts that participate in servers that get flagged for illegal activity: https://www.reddit.com/r/BannedFromDiscord/
It's also illogical to encourage this behavior if your goal is protesting. Smart protesters would practice the most basic of OPSEC practices, like not joining random Discord links shared without context.
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This is terrible advice unless you're trying to be a martyr. Considering and asking links before you click them is not unreasonable.
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It's a discord associated with this site: https://deflock.me/.
The discord itself isn't about the destruction of the ALPRs. It's just a community to map the devices and to understand their use throughout the US. Things people do outside of that community is separate.
I've seen when trashbags and duct tape cover them: no damage, but knocks'em out.
Have also seen others erect new signs... just conveniently enough right in front of the lenses.
I use flock maps (but not this discord -- it smells suspicious to me) so that I can be aware of what streets to avoid traveling on.
It's an abuse of the system so I'm not advocating it, but there's a temptation to add my residential subdivision to the map.
I have to be honest: I don't really want people who wish to avoid police tracking in my neighborhood. I don't care why you don't want to be tracked; I suspect that some subset of those who don't want to be tracked may be criminals, and there's zero loss to me from reduced vehicular traffic, so why not? Why not take advantage of the perceived threat to privacy? It's like putting signs up on one's home or business windows that advertise surveillance cameras are in place — it's either neutral or a win to me no matter why the existence of said surveillance bothers someone.
I disagree with you, but I applaud your willingness to be honest even though you had to have known it wouldn't be popular in this thread. I think you are articulating the same feelings that the majority of people probably feel, so I think your perspective is valuable. Thank you for sharing!
Using one surveillance platform to organize against another...
Giving detailed instructions and then saying "but I wouldn't recommend it" is just saying "please do this but don't put me in jail for telling you to do it".
Governments are not stupid and such tactics don't work.
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