Comment by Defletter

3 months ago

> The term “evil” is being used partially hyperbolic to make a point.

Kind of bonkers this even needs to be said, and even then it's missed/ignored.

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rgoulter  3 months ago

The title is provocative and attention grabbing. -- It's completely fair game to react to the provocation rather than the substance of the article itself. (Or, rather, it's silly to use attention grabbing rhetoric, then complain that people paid attention to the rhetoric).

I'd prefer instead a more balanced title like "Remember to Consider the Costs When Using Package Managers", or whatever.

  • 1GZ0  3 months ago

    > It's completely fair game to react to the provocation rather than the substance of the article itself.

    Yeah, but its down right stupid to do so.

    The title isn't even misleading or part of a Motte-and-bailey argument.

    People just hear "Package Managers are Evil" and assume that the author means you shouldn't use third party dependencies. Which is NOT what's being argued.

    But I guess you'd know that, if you read passed the title.

    • rgoulter  3 months ago

      In the article, the author does say "I am not advocating to write things from scratch", while also describing third party dependencies as liabilities (e.g. security vulnerabilities), that people are too trusting of third party dependencies, that people overestimate the quality of third party dependencies.

      I think you're splitting hairs if you're saying that these points from the article argue against package managers but don't argue against using third party dependencies.

      I similarly think you're splitting hairs if to consider "package managers are useful?" and "third party dependencies are useful?" as distinct points.

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  • cxr  3 months ago

    > The title is provocative and attention grabbing. -- It's completely fair game to react to the provocation rather than the substance

    No it isn't.

  • gingerBill  3 months ago

    The title of the article comes from the direct words I said in the video, of which the article is effectively a polished transcription of.

    Your "more balanced title" isn't even close to what I am saying. I am saying that Package Managers are just bad and should not be used. Not "remember to consider the costs". The net cost is bad for everyone, that's why I said "evil".