Comment by bergfest
5 months ago
With EU chat control, the state will be on my device, having access to everything they want, decide what I can and cannot do. Once Google forces WEI on us, the whole web will get locked down. And secure boot and now MIE will make sure we can never take back our freedom.
> MIE will make sure we can never take back our freedom.
Is the implication here that making phones more secure is... bad? Because it makes jailbreaks harder to develop?
I think it is. I've seen similar rhetoric from a few people in this thread, and it's extraordinarily silly. Apple is not developing this technology to make it harder to install torrent apps*; there's real problems they're trying to solve.
*: or whatever else people use jailbreaks for these days
Yes, absolutely.
Just like any weapon, "security" is only good if it's in your control. When the noose is around your neck, you'd better hope it easily breaks.
That is a good way to put it, stealing it.
Yeah, this is weird logic to me. If you want control of your computing don't buy Apple hardware and hope to find an exploit. But hardware that supports running your own software without fighting you.
> Buy hardware that supports running your own software without fighting you.
It will be very hard to buy something that won't exist in the near future. This rhetoric should've died a decade ago.
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That is, unless we balkanize our systems and services.
> That is, unless we balkanize our systems and services.
...all the way back to pen and paper
I wouldn't be surprised for certain kinds of secret sharing. Storage is cheap and sneaker-nets are easy. I'm sure someone is figuring out a network solution where 2 computers both have a 100tb hard drive with the same one-time pad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
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What is WEI?
Google proposed it as DRM for web pages in 2023. After much outcry it was unceremoniously withdrawn.