Comment by bflesch
6 months ago
Big ick from my side. Manifest-style marketing blog post talking about revolutionary things but it seems their main metric is in the image above the post: "hey, we've raised $22M in funding".
Landing pages of both spiral and vortex are GPU-hugging animations and void of any technical information. Empty nothing-statements like "machine scale". They claim 100x improvements but don't link any metrics.
Maybe this is a "don't hate the player, hate the game" situation but somehow the collective of likeminded AI engineers decided to upvote this post to #1 on HN.
There's this: https://bench.vortex.dev/, which links to https://github.com/vortex-data/vortex/tree/develop/bench-vor.... I haven't tried pulling the repo or anything but it seems like they might be runnable?
Of course I don't know what benchmarks or performance metrics they might have for the db layer, but it is something.
Thanks, it was behind a "see benchmarks" link at the very bottom of https://spiraldb.com/. I noticed these claims on both vortex.dev and https://spiraldb.com/vortex website, but both had no hyperlink to any actual metrics.
> Vortex is designed to support decoding data directly from S3 to GPU, skipping the CPU bottleneck entirely.
If this is true I'm inclined to believe their claims.
MY PERSONAL BOTTLENECK between S3 and GPU is my credit card and not some new cargo module by some already-rich AI engineer and a fancy marketing website that must've cost a couple hundred grand.
And if this module provides a benefit I'm sure it will find its way into our stack, just like PostgreSQL did. And PostgreSQL never had $22M to begin with - no shiny marketing, just technological skills.
The whole "donated by spiral" on the vortex.dev website also gives big tax write-off vibes.
IMO best case is that this will be a mongodb scenario, but with the current track record of tech grifters enshittifying everything they might find a creative new way.
> The whole "donated by spiral" on the vortex.dev website also gives big tax write-off vibes.
I've never heard of this sort of OSS work being used as a tax write-off. Could someone please either clarify, or enlighten me?
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> The whole "donated by spiral" on the vortex.dev website also gives big tax write-off vibes.
Donated is the Linux Foundation terminology.
Sadly the last time I filed a tax return there was no way to itemize a Github repo. Alas.
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