Comment by amarant

8 months ago

Unless I'm missing something tho, zulip seems to be exactly the same? That is, it's a SaaS with no oss software, no self hostable alternative. Only difference is they haven't hiked their prices......yet.

At this point anyone looking to avoid a price hike like the one described above should probably consider something they'll have more control over.

I'd probably go with my own Mastodon server if I was a company that needed any such communication tool. I'm sure there are other alternatives out there too

It's OSS and self-hostable. And it's got a great UI and the most joyous technology I've ever had the pleasure of using. https://zulip.com/self-hosting/

  • Oh, so I was missing something!

    That was not very obvious from their landing page!

    Well in that case, carry on!

    • > That was not very obvious from their landing page!

      It says in bold letters:

      "Your data is yours!

      For ultimate control and compliance, self-host Zulip’s 100% open-source software"

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  • Sadly as with many such products, if you want SSO and the like, you'll still end up paying per user per month. That gets stupid expensive quick

    • Or not.

      > When you self-host Zulip, you get the same software as our Zulip Cloud customers.

      > Unlike the competition, you don't pay for SAML authentication, LDAP sync, or advanced roles and permissions. There is no “open core” catch — just freely available world-class software.

      The optional pricing plans for self-hosted mention that you are buying email and chat support for SAML and other features, but I don't see where they're charging for access to SAML on self-hosted Zulip.

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go to product > self-hosting

you might notice it's 100% free software

now there is always the question how a company used Slack, e.g. just some ad-hoc fast communication channels like "general", "food", "events" or a in depth usage with a lot of in-depth usage, including video conferences, channels for every squad/project/sprint/whatever

but the relevant thing to realize is that there is subtle but very relevant difference between a "social network" focused tool and a work place communications focused tool

and Mastodon has a very clear focus on the former while Zulip has a clear focus on the later