Comment by whatsupdog

7 months ago

Agree. And the constant spying doesn't help either. Who wants an always online meta controlled camera/microphone in their bedroom all the time?

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ryandrake  7 months ago

I'm never going to update a photo government ID to some company just to use an app. What kind of a bonkers world are we living in? Totally ridiculous. No app is worth this.

  • heavyset_go  7 months ago

    Some sites outsource their ID verification to platforms that want live videos of different angles of your face, along with pictures of your ID.

    Literally all the data they could possibly need to build 3D models of your face for even better facial recognition, along with plenty of data to train models on. When that data eventually leaks, it will be interesting.

    It's insane that anyone puts up with it.

    • perihelions  7 months ago

      > "that want live videos of different angles of your face"

      Hetzner (outsourcing to Idenfy) dared to demand this of me, three years ago. I'm still mad about it.

      > "When that data eventually leaks,"

      Indeed, my understanding is these sensitive biometrics are generically (i) uploaded in full to a remote server, where they're (ii) retained for a nontrivial amount of time, because they need to be (iii) manually QA'd by humans. It's nothing like an iPhone's local-only biometrics enclave. My understanding's based on the specific case of Idenfy, and an ex-Idenfy HN'er explaining its workflow[0].

      [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33863625#33864440

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    • sunnybeetroot  7 months ago

      It’s likely your face in multiple angles already exists online whether from photos or videos, simply because you were in the background of someone else taking a photo or video. Whilst I align with you in being restrictive in the data we share online, corporations and government with infinite resources likely have everything they need to construct “3D models of your face for even better facial recognition”.

    • benterix  7 months ago

      I had to go through this shit show once in my life, in order to use Airbnb.

      It's been a few years since I last used Airbnb and I regret that moment of weakness.

  • mikae1  7 months ago

    Most new accounts seem to require a face scan too (finally they're true to their name?). I recently needed to get a Facebook account and was not able to use it without providing the scan. Luckily I was able to do an AI face swap, but far from everyone is that savvy.

anal_reactor  7 months ago

Lots of people, actually. This website is an echo chamber of those privacy-conscious.

  • bigyabai  7 months ago

    HN is typically slow to admit it, but Facebook and TikTok wouldn't be popular if you were wrong. Consumers don't care.

    • piltdownman  7 months ago

      Consumers don't know or want to know rather - ignorance is bliss when it comes to getting Children to spend relatively quiet time independently. Otherwise the GOP would be virtue-signalling about getting Roblox as a platform getting banned due to the preponderance of predators and material unsuitable or unsafe for children.

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    • Yeul  7 months ago

      I live in Europe so there are still rules keeping Weyland-Yutani in line.

      If you're in the US you're on your own I guess.

  • tonkinai  7 months ago

    Totally. Most people just click Accept All on the dumb cookie banners, and they don't give a sh*t about privacy at all.

    • rhetocj23  7 months ago

      Its not that they dont care at all. They just dont care until they feel the pain of it, because they are optimising for short term satisfaction.

epolanski  7 months ago

You already have one, regardless of some companies repeating the privacy claim 24/7 to make you believe so.