Comment by Vinnl

7 months ago

For me it's not so much about what those glasses could do for me if I were to wear them... It's what they do to me if someone else wears them.

Watch Zuckerberg proudly showing how his hand gestures are hardly noticeable. So, so creepy.

I wouldn’t be surprised if people wearing these would get confronted, denied entry or beaten up regularly. I can even totally see them ray-banned legally. At least in the EU. Much less with external video processing.

Although I love the idea of AR and the cyberpunk flair, I don’t think these will be a thing because of privacy implications. Nothing has fundamentally changed since Google Glass failure.

  • Agree - basically tech that can see what people do, is creepy. and as you suggest - others can engage, but we don't control that.

    Currently, it's somewhat obvious, but what happens when the tech is totally invisible?

    That day is coming very soon, within a decade, max, and you have to imagine every thing you ever do, in any place - even in the dark, is recorded.

    Arthur C Clarke, and Stephen Baxter wrote a book about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Light_of_Other_Days

    Well worth reading, imho, but it does explicitely ignore the concept of a higher presence, which is noteworthy

    • We know what happens when the tech is invisible. There are thousands of cameras doing facial recognition and license plate tracking and nobody cares. Everything we do is already recorded. Your phone location history, your vehicle location history, all the things you buy and shop for, your search history... But some random wears a pair of glasses and everybody loses their mind.

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  • Google Glass was a loud, clunky script, whereas these are a stealthy, AI-powered rootkit hiding in plain sight. The fundamental change isn't the hardware, it's the social engineering masterstroke of weaponizing fashion to make the public willingly install a backdoor to their entire life.

  • > I wouldn’t be surprised if people wearing these would get confronted, denied entry or beaten up regularly. I can even totally see them ray-banned legally.

    I really, really hope you're not advocating for that. That's straight up violence, not in self defence.

    • Depends on the jurisdiction and circumstances. In my country filming someone without their consent is also illegal. In a situation where someone feels violated in their privacy, when words didn’t work, force may be required. Advocating or not, it’s likely going to happen. Pointing a camera at someone‘s face obnoxiously tends to escalate situations. Mix alcohol, testosterone and happenstances and you got yourself broken glasses. Try that with a phone camera today and report back.

Exactly. The real danger is how they turn every wearer into a walking surveillance camera, creating a permanent, searchable record of your life without your consent, simply by being near them.

This fundamentally rewrites the rules of social interaction, creating a panopticon where you have to assume you're always being recorded, forcing self-censorship and destroying the trust essential for any authentic relationship.

And because our antiquated consent laws and pathetic safeguards like a tiny indicator light are completely unprepared for this, you have no real way to opt out of their surveillance network.

  • Relevant Black Mirror episode

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNYzbHeRLkg

    • Ever since I saw that episode I've felt like it's inevitable that something like this will become commonplace. If I had a product like this that actually worked as imagined, and the full data pipeline was under my complete control, I could think of a dozen reasons why I'd want to use it. If we take it for granted that this is coming whether we want it or not (and I'm not saying we necessarily must, but it's worth pondering)... is there a way to design the technology, and cultivate new social norms, such that we end up with something that's a net positive rather than a dystopian panopticon? I haven't been able to answer this for myself, at least not yet.

      (Even setting the social repercussions aside, though, Zuck/Meta being involved is a dealbreaker for me.)

  • > simply by being near them

    There's a solution to that.

    There's a reason the term "glass-holes" was invented.

    As a general rule, it's probably best to stay away from these kinds of people for a while. Because nowadays it doesn't even have to be you. It could be someone standing in the frame somewhere with you that does something objectionable. Thus awakening the wrath of society. Or even worse - the government.