Comment by Ndymium

2 months ago

En and em dashes are easily accessible on both my laptop's and phone's keyboard layouts and I like using them, just like putting the ö in coöperate. It's sad if this now makes me look like a robot and I have to use the wrong dashes to be more "human".

TIL that some people spell cooperate with an "ö".

As a Swedish native it really breaks my reading of an English word, but apparently it's supposed to indicate that you should pronounce each "o" separately. Language is fun.

  • As a native English speaker, it also breaks my reading of "cooperate". Never seen it before. I think parent is just annoyingly eccentric for the sake of it.

    • I admit that latter part is just for whimsy, because I think it looks fun. The dashes I like for their aesthetics and if that makes me eccentric then so be it. They shouldn't distract anyone's reading, or at least they didn't use to before LLMs.

  • Using umlauts to signal that a vowel is pronounced separately is common in a number of languages (like Dutch).

    • Yeah, I know.

      It's just confusing for us poor Swedes since "ö" in Swedish is a separate letter with its own pronunciation, and not a somehow-modified "o". Always takes an extra couple of seconds to remember how "Motörhead" is supposed to be said. :)

    • But it's not used as an Umlaut here, that's exactly what's confusing. Here this is used as a trema/diaeresis.

Em dashes are widely used. The diaeresis is only used in The New Yorker and those that copied their style.