The amount of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack on specific places at specific times is contextual and not comparably equal.
Every time I hear or read that expression, I stop taking the comment seriously because it attempts to shut down dialogue with a cute, esoteric phrase instead of fostering a discussion about a serious retrospective.
A little humility would be in order here. "I am not aware of this" is quite different than "there is no evidence whatsoever." The latter comment implies you are aware of the reporting and issues and have carefully weighed them.
This is something that has been discussed in major Israeli media publications.
A lack of surveillance wasn’t the problem. It was not believing the intelligence.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-milita...
Such a Monday quarterback's perspective. There is always plenty of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack
The amount of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack on specific places at specific times is contextual and not comparably equal.
Every time I hear or read that expression, I stop taking the comment seriously because it attempts to shut down dialogue with a cute, esoteric phrase instead of fostering a discussion about a serious retrospective.
Not moving troops and police away from the border might have prevented Oct 7th. I think they were more focused on the West Bank at the time.
Or following up the reports of suspicious behavior in Gaza by your own IDF border troops days before the terror attack.
Ah, yes, the classic argument: we must ramp up surveillance because it is the only way to stop pedophiles, terrorists, and pirates.
Egyptian intelligence informed Israel before October 7. Israel chose to let it happen anyway: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047
Israeli government wanted October 7 to happen, because they knew it would provide a good pretext for the genocide they wanted to commit.
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What a foolish and unsubstantiated claim.
this site is going downhill quickly if we’re moving into conspiracy theories like this
There is no evidence whatsoever that was false flag attack. I didn't expect such blatant conspiracy theories on HN.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...
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A little humility would be in order here. "I am not aware of this" is quite different than "there is no evidence whatsoever." The latter comment implies you are aware of the reporting and issues and have carefully weighed them.
This is something that has been discussed in major Israeli media publications.
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it's not false flag attack to know everything about preparation to the attack and then moving all protections away to let it happen
it's straight up worse
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I really don't care. I'm just pointing out that surveillance often means thing get nipped in the bud instead of festering and blowing up.