Comment by skinkestek
1 month ago
Let's not ignore the last 60-70 or even 1400 years.
Israelis hit back hard. But they haven't been the ones to declare war on peaceful neighbors.
It wasn't them who stood for thr München massacre or a number of plane hijackings in the 70ies.
It wasn't Israelis who blew up buses in Gaza.
Was it?
We must stop confusing powerful with evil and currently helpless with "innocent".
What a delightful selection of specific incidents.
In just the past two weeks Israel attacked a half dozen of its neighboring countries.
Israel itself is a belligerent Western colony that has been ethnically cleansing Palestine since the 1940s.
It is the obligation for an occupied people to resist their occupiers, and according to the UN that is up to and includes violent resistence. The entirety of Palestine has been increasingly under occupation since Israel's inception.
Countless UN resolutions highlight Israels belligerence time and again with only the US and its subservient states like Micronesia voting against the overwhelming voice of the whole rest of the world.
Israel is an evil apartheid genocial settler colonial state that has brought nothing but further war and bloodshed to the region, and nothing Zionists state can change that fact.
Half a dozen? Let’s do inventory!
Lebanon’s - hezbollah has fired rockets into Israel on oct 8th 2023 Iraq - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza Yemen - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza Syria - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza Iran - fired the largest array of ballistic missiles to Israel after Israel bombed an consulate in Syria where Hamas and hezbolla were congregating Qatar - that’s the only country that didn’t physically attack Israel, but they did finance Hamas for the past decade, and operate a global information war against Israel via Al Jazeera
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You know what, I just had to do a double take because your post is so stupid.
Israel brought nothing to the region? Let’s review.
Israel has the highest gdp by a great margin.
Israel is an important exporter of technology to the world, be it cyber tech, water tech, agriculture tech or defense tech.
Israel has the highest number of startups per capita in the world.
Israel has more Nobel laureates than the entire rest of the Middle East.
Last olymipcs Israel won more medal than the rest of the Middle East.
Palestines primary exports pretty much mounts to terrorism and sedition.
So yeah, Israel is an extremely successful country, saying otherwise is either ignorance, or malicious.
Israel only survives as a vassal state of the US. Without US aid, political cover, and unconditional military support, they cannot exist. It is being made illegal to boycott Israel in the US, given them artificial economic advantages, and they receive a surprising amount of US government contracts especially in security and data related tech. They exploit the few remaining Palestinians for their own manual labor with unfair wages in their aparteid state.
All of what you said does nothing for the region as they continue to expand their own borders by stealing more and more land from their neighbors (they recently took MORE land from Syria as the new government took shape). Their achievements are marred by their vicious genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza and increasingly genocidal behavior in the West Bank as well. Of course you'll economically prosper if you consider stealing and occupying a legitimate right of yours. They achieve all of this by bringing bloodshed and war to the region, which they call for from the US time and time again.
How many times has Bibi Netanyahu gone before Congress to pull the US into another war in the Middle East? The US foots the bill to weaken their neighbors so they stand out more. That's not an economic achievement to be proud of or boasting about.
They can have all the startups they want, but they have the worst human rights record of any country currently, with the largest number of condemnations in the UN of any other country but always vetoed by the US. When you don't have to worry about being judged the same as other countries, then you are free to develop your country without worry about petty things like human rights violations as long as Uncle Sam foots the security bill and sends over more contracts.
Israel and those who unconditionally support it are complicit in its genocide.
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Leaving Quatar aside, because seriously that puzzles everyone including me: what half a dozen countries are you referring to?
Somehow everyone is forgetting the Six Day War and who the aggressors were. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Or that after they got soundly defeated, Israel was nice enough to give back a lot of their lost territory.
Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia, Qatar and Yemen [0].
[0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/10/maps-israel-has-att...
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1400 years ? it was a creation of the second world war, but anyway regarding neighbors you mean other than bombing iran, syria, yemen, lebanon I believe in all these cases israel attacked first and thats in the past 12months. I think your point was meant to be more that Israel has a right to defend its self and I think most people and countries would back Israel in that right if the response had been proportionate. instead theyve killed record numbers of journalists(worst in history https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactiv...), 70% of the dead are women and children (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo), more than a thousand are dead due to starvation directly caused by Israel, this isn't how wars are fought.
> it was a creation of the second world war
The modern state of Israel with its present borders were a creation of the Second World War. But if you go back in time to ~1000 BC, Jewish people occupied the entire region (much broader than just Israel), and they are the only surviving indigenous people of the region. This isn’t even controversial. Virtually all historians and scholars acknowledge this because there is literal physical evidence in the buildings at Temple Mount and elsewhere, which are all dated back to that time.
Good points.
You will probably also like to know that the plans for a modern Israel started long before WW2 and Holocaust, and originally not because of persecution of Jews by Europeans in Europe but because of persecution of Jews by Arabs in the middle East.
1400 years ? it was a creation of the second world war, but anyway regarding neighbors you mean other than bombing iran, syria, yemen, lebanon I believe in all these cases israel attacked first and thats in the past 12months. I think your point was meant to be more that Israel has a right to defend its self and I think most people and countries would back Israel in that right if the response had been proportionate. instead theyve killed record numbers of journalists(worst in history), 70% of the dead are women and children (tried adding links but doesnt seem to let me), more than a thousand are dead due to starvation directly caused by Israel, this isn't how wars are fought.
If the powerful are genociding the helpless, then the powerful are evil. It doesn't matter who hit whom first.
The point is a conflict that the victim can choose to end anytime they want isn't a genocide, no matter how UN tries to twist one of the legal definitions into something that can be interpretated as one.
Boy I would love to hear how the innocent Palestinians who are starving and whose homes have been destroyed can end this conflict at any time.
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