Comment by Imustaskforhelp

15 days ago

Hm that is a fair argument in the sense that I also wish to move forward to graphene but I got a shitty redmi phone which barely works but it still has f-droid and I also want to move forward to graphene as I said.

I mean, yes, graphene is fairly recent getting traction and I can understand why you felt that apple did a better job at saving the end user than google did.

That is partially because imo google is essentially an ads company and there are lots of ads of spyware/malware that google does nothing about and also they are esssentially spying on you yourself for selling ads.

Apple takes a more on hardware approach in the sense that they don't want to spy on you as much because they have less incentives to do so because they don't have an advertisement system aaas much as google y'know, so they definitely took a bite at apple = privacy which has worked for many people.

Google bought android and android was always an open system and it had both its pros and cons. There is also an open system of marketplace called aptoid which was literally apt + android but it also might have malware sometimes and f-droid is the best option for most use cases.

Apple had never really had an open system and it had both its pros and cons and google is seemingly shifting into it which is like a nightmare because now we have very less choices of sorts.

And android has sort of innovated/transitioned into grapheneos for general public privacy imo.

So, yes I do think that we are in agreement that grapheneos is now here to stay and I can understand why you atleast appreciated apple for not being as privacy invading as google for some time which you were pointing out

We are in unison, I agree with your points. Its just that I thought that you were just fanboying over apple for the sake of it in the original comment and glad we understood each other points as really we are talking about the same thing and agreeing at essentially everything.

Thanks for explaining your original comment better through this comment and have a nice day.

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jackstraw42  15 days ago

Thank you for taking the time to write your comment, too. I think it's extremely important that all sides of communication come together ASAP and discuss most of the things that might have been very polarizing in our near past. For the sake of not just our country (speaking to fellow Americans here) but humanity overall.

  • Imustaskforhelp  15 days ago

    Agreed. Our differences are very little and we have a lot of similarities

    Yet we fight over differences and brush over the similarities.

    Why? because hate sells.. People are selling hate/internalizing hate/ragebaits.

    I had actually written one shit post comment about something echo chambering of sorts or how or why we should love each other and try be discussing of sorts you could say while still bringing action towards thing.

    I think that the one thing most people agree over is big tech's oligarchy of sorts and how they can somewhat abuse it and I can think of ways that I can make the right people understand it I suppose too, never tried it tbh.

    idk I just want to bring you attention to the one shitpost I wrote which I intented to write a shitpost but I think I wrote really relevant things in there and I am proud of them

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45406430

    We all need to be understanding of each other and enlighten us to the real issues that we have the power to solve but we don't because of numerous reasons. Lets make a world a better place because We Do Not Inherit the Earth from Our Ancestors; We Borrow It from Our Children.

    Have a nice day.

    • jackstraw42  15 days ago

      I think that's one of the most mysteriously insightful comments I've ever read anywhere on the internet. I can see why some might be dismissive without considering it further though, maybe like my initial comment in this thread that I feel like was misinterpreted, when really I wanted others to consider this same thing, their honest opinion about whether the last 17 years of mobile OS experience was worth it to get to where we are now. If we could avoid it, would we do it differently or would we do it all over again? After commenting in this thread all day I feel like we should be smart enough to avoid it, but I don't have an answer of how we would either, so it seems like it would just happen again how it did.

      There were lots of excerpts from your comment that I highlighted and hit Ctrl+C, then thinking "well this would be better to comment on or this would be better or now maybe the other way....". It's not important how I would pick apart your comment (and in a really nice way, I don't mean "pick apart" like criticize down to the last detail... but right there's something that would get lost in communication normally, I expect). This was my favorite part of your comment though, and I was going to say something like, Reagan thought we needed trickle-down economics but what we really need is growth with love, all the way down to the roots:

      "Yes we are human but dear reader, I feel like corruption only goes to top if it reeks from bottom too as well. Its messed up but maybe we can all try to acknowledge it and try to just know that we are all gonna die anyway and well, giving a other unique human smile and happiness might be the most precious thing."

      Make sure you have a nice day yourself, dear reader.

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