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Comment by le-mark

2 days ago

LineageOS is an open source android distribution. Can anyone comment on who might use LineageOS and why?

Every version of Lineage has rooted ADB accessible in the developer options. If you want root for apps, you must load Magisk. If root is important to you, this is your OS.

Lineage puts out all the patches that they can, every month, unlike OEMs. If current patches are important to you, this is your OS.

Lineage allows you to run it without any Google closed source code.

These are some serious advantages, depending upon what you are trying to do.

I use LineageOS on all my devices (it's actually my main criteria when buying a phone) to mainly install apps from F-Droid without relying on the Google Play Store.

It has the same familiar look and feel on all devices and by experience is way snappier than the original ROM.

  • are you able to do any banking your phone?

    • (Lineage user here) I've had no trouble with Schwab, USAA, Discover, Amex, Mercury, PayPal, Venmo, or Stripe.

      Phone is rooted with Magisk Hide and MicroG for spoofing google play services. Google Wallet does not work.

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    • Most everything banking related works for me. 2 different credit unions, roboinvesting, paypal & paypal-alikes, credit card, car insurance, etc.

      What does not work? An LG app to control an air conditioner.

      Also I have to hide root from the roku app, which I use for the headphone because it works better than the headphone on the remote.

      Super important stuff, no wonder they lock that down so much.

      Ok I did skip one real thing for the sake of the funny. I can't do google tap to pay. That's about it.

      This is all the same on a rooted standard rom as on Lineage.

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    • Banking apps that do not require Google Play services, such as Bank of America, run just fine. Besides, you can always open a browser and use the web version. Losing banking apps and "tap to pay" is a small price to pay for avoiding having your data constantly siphoned by Google.

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    • 3 banking apps running fine, until revolut decided to pull a douche move. i've ended my contract with them.

      2 banking apps running fine.

Got a Xperia Z1 in 2013. Sony stopped updating it at some point in 2014-2015, which is stupid, but the hardware was still like new (which is the great thing about Sony phones) so I rooted it and managed to install it. Can't remember if it was already named "LineageOS" or "CyanogenMod" at the time. However, it lasted with me until nov. 2020 when I dropped and the screen cracked, made it to be changed but the replacement was kinda bad so used it as an excuse to get a 1ii.

I did the same with this "new" phone, that is going to be 5 years with me - since also got that only-two-years-of-updates thing, threw LineageOS on it and it's going as new.

So as I said the last time I saw a post about it in here, thanks to LineageOS I can use a phone for way more than they are set out to be forgotten. It's a great project and it's really sad Google are making things harder for them for the sake of "security".

I immediately put Lineage on all my devices. In fact, I only buy Android devices that Lineage supports. It's a uniform, degoogled Android experience that just works.

  • What devices do you use Lineage on may I ask?

    • Pixel 7 Pro, OnePlus 9, OnePlus 6, Minimal Phone MP01 (unofficial ROM), Samsung Gakaxy Tab S5e. Formerly: Xperia X Compact

If your phone is more than a few years old it likely doesn't get updates from the manufacturer anymore. LineageOS will get you to the latest Android with security patches. Same sort of deal as with OpenWRT for a router really, you get all the features and security patches but at the loss of the firmware that the device came with and its propriety enhancements.

I have a Samsung Tablet and Samsung's version for said tablet is a giant mountain of crap, full of bloatware, so I installed LineageOS on it. Also my old phone and my old old phone run LineageOS because I'm just logged in to Google on my {current_phone}.

  • I ran LineageOS on my Moto X4 for many years. It was much faster without the OEM Moto and carrier apps, and was faster again when I installed it without Google Play Services. Same thing with an old Kindle Fire tablet, finally made it fast enough to practically use.

  • It's worth mentioning that newer Samsung phones and tablets have an eFuse that is blown when you unlock them. This permanently disables some functionality of their separate secure element (IIRC). If you are planning to run LineageOS forever, it would probably not be a big issue, but if you just want to try a third-party OS or ever resell the device, it could be an issue.

    • Also note that latest Samsung models like Z Flip 7, along with recent models such as S25 who's gonna get the OneUI 8 update will not allow unlocking anymore.

  • Can you tell which tablet is that? I'm lurking around and wondering if I should pick Samsung one once iPad battery dies out

    • Tab A7, old and not worth it even for a low price, too sluggish even with LineageOS but definitely better than stock of course.

I haven't used custom roms in ages, but I used Lineage back when it was called Cyanogen. It had this cool thing where you could adjust brightness by swiping the top edge of the screen. (This was back in the day when you could reach that part easily!)

My personal take is that most Android devices no longer get updates pretty soon after the release (where pretty soon means 2-3 years). Google promises 7 years of support for their newer devices, but most vendors don't.

LineageOS is, besides the fact hat it is more open for non google stuff, providing Android Updates for older devices. While this does not necessarily provide better security (rooted devices are often not considered as secure), you still get the newer Androids security patches and FEATURES. Furthermore you are more open to do what you want.

However LineageOS does to my knowledge not support bootloader re-locking on most devices, which might be a security risk (see https://grapheneos.org/install/web#locking-the-bootloader).

To not have Google built into all alspects of your life too much. Although it still uses some essential Google services, it does take out most unnecessary stuff, which you often can optionally add later in a possibly more secure form, but sometimes can't, which will cause very specific apps using these services not to function, or these features of those apps.

And if Chat Control will be implemented in Google Android, then LineageOS also offers you a way out of that, which is a huge plus of course if you ask me.

I want to use an OS that isn't loaded with spyware, so non-FOSS Android just doesn't fit the bill for me.

  • QFT. Lineage and Graphene are the last bastions of freedom on mobile phones. Linux phones aren't quite there yet in terms of usability, and sacrifice compatibility with thousands of great apps (including many great FOSS apps) available on Android.

If you want to escape Google's monopoly, you can use LineageOS without google apps, as opposed to the malware and spyware-ridden trash that usually comes preinstalled on your phone.

It makes perfect sense to use it if you even remotely care about better performance, battery life and privacy. Google ships it's bloated apps which not only tracks everything and runs on privileged mode but degrades your battery life to a great extent

You can run LineageOS on the Nintendo Switch if you want: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/nx/variant1/

And it's a decently recent version with more-or-less official Nvidia Tegra drivers, too. For the variety of weird-but-ubiquitous devices that have a bootloader hack, LineageOS is the route to a working smart device that anyone can pick up and use.