Comment by Tiktaalik
3 days ago
Even though the exchange has become the TSX Venture exchange, Vancouver remains the centre for junior mining companies, of the sort where scams are common.
I used to work in Downtown Vancouver and would on occasion get my haircut at a downtown barber frequented by office workers all around, and those barbers were a wealth of knowledge about the latest gossip from shifty junior miners and whatever they were into, which was increasingly not mining, but trendy startups.
Funny thing was when I was working in the area mining was going through a bit of a downturn, so a lot of the junior miners were shifting into other hot things they could fundraise for, like cannabis and crypto. From scam to scam to scam.
I stopped working downtown so stopped getting the gossip but I presume they swiftly pivoted to NFTs and onto whatever flakey thing they could still dubiously attach a .ai domain to.
I just happened to be going through every stock in the TSX from smallest market cap to largest. Many of the stocks at the bottom were mining companies that started with some huge spike then faded into nothing for the next N years until the current state of what seems to be basically dead.
I assume you’re referring to crypto mining, but the mental image of handlebar-mustachioed ore miners gossiping in Vancouver barber shops about how to scam investors with their shaft-digging operations is quite hilarious to think about! Pickaxes must be left at the door after the Incident.
He’s actually talking about guys banging on rocks looking for gold. So to speak.
My dad is involved in junior mining projects (geology, not gpu), and, yep, Vancouver is where you go to find these sorts of things, legitimate or not.
Energy (oil & gas) and Resources (mining) have some serious scams, minor coup d'états, and no shortage of the not so funny.
Common low level scams such as falsifying assay results from ground and bore hole samples are just the beginning.
More questionable scams tap dance about questions of who really owns or controls resources, who can be paid off, and how to bury money spent greasing wheels by various means.
In mining, you'll often see events such as:
* https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/australi...
* https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/18/resol...
Multiple sides to both these events.
Oh no absolutely real mining.
But ultimately the transferable skills are pitch making, selling to investors, pumping and dumping.
That applies not just to some plot of land in some obscure place that has some "enormously promising" signs of valuable minerals, but also some new crytocurrency, NFTs, cannabis, VR and all sorts novel things. AI is the latest thing but it won't be the last.
When mining is hot they'll focus on mining, but when it's not they'll be looking to see how they can use their skills on other places.
(Not to say that any of these things are necessarily scams per se, I personally think there's lots of interesting things going on with AI, but this is the ocean that these guys swim in, and there'll be lots of money attaching some flimsy nothing idea to the latest hot trend)
that's pretty accurate ;) I used to live in Vancouver too and ... some of that culture's like that. Most is good 'ol "people in suits" though.
A long time ago, Vancouver was a center of gold mining scamming too. "Gassy Jack" downtown was one of the major scammers near the founding of the city.
Hey I am thinking of moving there. From abroad. Is it a good move or should I go with Toronto?
The skiing and hiking makes me want to go to BC
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My first thought was ore mining before crypto mining. I think I've recovered from the days of crypto induced mania where every other article on Hackernews was cryptocurrency related.
It's worth mentioning that the 'culture' you describe is also something that significantly aided and abetted various real estate scams and bubble related activity. Vancouver has all sort of shady shit going on in real estate.