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Comment by 4gotunameagain

6 hours ago

Ukraine a working democracy ? Before the war it was one of the most corrupt countries in the European continent.

And by applying just a tiny bit of realism, is it feasible for a country right next to a colossal power to have independence ? Do all the small countries south of the US enjoy independence ?

> Ukraine a working democracy ?

Straw man.

Moscow is ruled by idiots. The war in Ukraine was perhaps the largest own goal of the millennium, ahead of Brexit and possibly right behind—worst case—the Iraq War.

> is it feasible for a country right next to a colossal power to have independence ?

Yes. Literally how alliances have worked since the Bronze Age.

  • > Straw man.

    Nope. Challenge to presuppositions. The argument would be valid only if Ukraine was a threat of a "working democracy"

    > Yes. Literally how alliances have worked since the Bronze Age.

    Since we are now past the Bronze age could you give me a contemporary example of a small country close to the US that is practically independent and is not meddled with ?

    > Moscow is ruled by idiots.

    Putin might be a power hungry lunatic — like most leaders — but there is one thing that he certainly isn't, an idiot. Neither is Lavrov.