Comment by libraryatnight
2 days ago
He donated to Biden, but had no registered party. Congrats, you're part of the insanity.
I'm sort of grossed out by people trying to blame a party for this in general, though. It's weird.
2 days ago
He donated to Biden, but had no registered party. Congrats, you're part of the insanity.
I'm sort of grossed out by people trying to blame a party for this in general, though. It's weird.
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> A large number of California wildfires have been set by arsonists and arson is a key tactic used by ecoterrorist groups like ELF
This is misleading. Ecoterrorist groups do use arson, but they target cars and buildings, like car dealerships or chain stores, not forests.
If you're engaged in a fight against logging, burning down forests is likely not the first thing on your mind.
Immediately jumping to conclusions and then using that conclusion as a political weapon is part of the insanity. Everything that happens has to be qualified as either beneficial to your political position or detrimental to it, dictating how you respond to it. Everything has to be framed as the fault of your "evil" opponents or as a lie and fake news.
This is extremely detrimental to societal cohesion and to democratic political processes, and I wish people would stop before it's too late.
> Ecoterrorist groups do use arson, but they target cars and buildings, like car dealerships or chain stores, not forests.
False. If you know anything about forests you know that before “European colonizers” (not my preferred terminology tbh) wildfire was very common and a tool wielded by indigenous peoples to control overgrowth of the sort that is now common given “intrusion” of housing into forested land which is often a subject of the ecoterrorist’s disdain.
When a major serial arsonist is caught and he explains, “f** you f*** pigs!” a natural response is to pattern match to anarchist or ecoterrorist fringe groups and anti-authoritarian personality types. When the news censors or conspicuously avoids discussion of specific individuals and their motives, preferring an imo more beneficial focus on climate change (a very real and pressing threat) even more pattern matching occurs.
I’m not saying such speculation is useful or accurate, but I don’t think it’s insanity by any stretch.
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ELF bombed buildings, they didn't set wildfires.
Fair enough but given sparse coverage of the backgrounds of many serial arsonists (the ones that got caught, presumably most of them do not) behind recent California wildfires, people notice that for example, Alexandra Souverneva, was an Environmental Studies major and yoga instructor and speculate on her motive.
Much of that speculation is the direct result of the conspicuously sparse reporting about the backgrounds of these arsonists. There was Maynard, the college professor, there was Eric Michael Smith who may have simply been anti-authoritarian bedwetter type. I mean, it’s a huge list but the coverage, perhaps for noble reasons, focuses almost exclusively on climate change which if you understand the science and notice the vast number of arsonists that do get caught seems almost conspiratorial to those prone to conjecture.
I see it as simple tribalism
Tribalism yes, simple no.
There is propaganda and mental health issues making this more complicated
this is an incredible leap in imagination. I'm constantly impressed by that kind of diversity in thought towards a common goal.
normally it's the other way round - diverse thought leads to many places, but in hating the big bad leftie boogeyman, certain people seem really great at joining the dots.
here's a hint: it's actually written in the stars! don't believe me? take a map of a deep sky survey, and draw dots! you'll find the message you're looking for.
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The only indisputable fact about the Kirk assassin was that he had access to a bad ass rifle and knew how to use it. Like many shooters, he was a gun nut with psychological issues.
You claiming that he was "a leftist" is exactly the tribalism you complain about.
As much as i hate it this does prove the other commenters point. They guy was at the very least indisputably not right wing. Leftist? Maybe not too political of a take for me but he was no maganut at the time of the act.
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