Comment by wongarsu
21 hours ago
This argument comes up a lot, but it feels a bit silly to me. If you want a beefy server you start out with renting one. $150/month will give you a server with 24 core Xeon and 256GB of RAM, in a data center with everything you mentined plus a 24/7 hands-on technician you can book. Preferably rent two servers, because reliablity. Once you outgrow renting servers you start renting rack space in a certified data center with all the same amenities. Once you outgrow that you start renting entire racks, then rows of racks or small rooms inside the DC. Then you start renting portions of the DC. Once you have outgrown that you have to seriously worry about maintaining your own data center. But at that point you have so much scale that this will be the least of your worries
> This argument comes up a lot, but it feels a bit silly to me. If you want a beefy server you start out with renting one. $150/month will give you a server with 24 core Xeon and 256GB of RAM, in a data center with everything you mentined plus a 24/7 hands-on technician you can book.
What's the bandwidth and where can I rent one of these??
Hetzner [1]. Bandwidth is 1 GBit/s. You can also get 10 GBit/s, that's hidden away a bit instead of being mentioned on the order page [2]
1: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex
2: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-...
I have wished for years that Hetzner would offer their bare metal servers in the U.S., and not just Hetzner Cloud.
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How is that any different from cloud?
This whole thread was a response to
> Today at AWS, it is easily possible for people to spend a multiple of the cost of that hardware setup every month for far less compute power and storage.
suggesting to use a few beefy servers but if we are renting them from cloud we're back where we started.
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Not ideal when a large part of your userbase is in APAC.
https://us.ovhcloud.com/bare-metal/prices/?display=list
also pretty sure 24 cores is like 48 cloud “cores” which are usually just hyper threads right?
IME, a cloud "core" is even worse than a hyperthread. I'm not sure if they oversubscribe, or underclock, or if it's virtualization overhead... but anyway, not great.
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I'm a lot less concerned about CPU and ram and a lot more concerned about replicated object storage (across data centers). High end GPUs are also pretty important.