Comment by xbar
1 year ago
Charge the superintendent with swatting.
Decision-maker accountability is the only thing that halts bad decision-making.
1 year ago
Charge the superintendent with swatting.
Decision-maker accountability is the only thing that halts bad decision-making.
> Charge the superintendent with swatting.
This assumes no human verification of the flagged video. Maybe the bag DID look like a gun. We'll never know, because modern journalism has no interest in such things. They obtained the required emotional quotes and moved on.
Human verified the video -> human was the decision-maker. No human verified the video -> Human who gave a blank check to the AI system was the decision-maker. It's not really about the quality of journalism, here.
Please provide the quote from the story that says which of those is the case.
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Not at all.
Superintendent approved a system that they 100% knew would hallucinate guns on students. You assert that if the superintendent required human-in-the-loop before calling the police that the superintendent is absolved from deploying that system on students.
You are wrong. The superintendent is the person who decided to deploy a system that would lead to swatting kids and they knew it before they spent taxpayer dollars on that system.
The superintendent also knew that there is no way a school administrator is going to reliably NOT dial SWAT when the AI hallucinates a gun. No administrator is going to err on the side of "I did not see an actual firearm so everything is great even though the AI warned me that it exists." Human-in-the-loop is completely useless in this scenario. And the superintendent knows that too.
In your lifetime, there will be more dead kids from bad AI/police combinations than <some cause of death we all think is too high>. We are not close to safely betting lives on it, but people will do it immediately anyway.
No amount of telling people that AI hallucinates will get some people to believe that AI hallucinates.
"In your lifetime, there will be more dead kids from bad AI/police combinations than <some cause of death we all think is too high>."
Maybe, but that won't stop the kind of people that watch cable news from saying "if it stops one crime" or "if it saves one life".
So, are you implying that if humans surveil kids at random and call the SWAT team if a frame in a video seems to imply one kid has a gun, that then it's all OK?
Those journalists, just trying to get (unjustified, dude, unjustified!!) emotes from kids being mistakenly held at gun point, boy they are terrible.... They're just covering up how necessary those mistakes are in our pursuit of teh crime...
If security sees someone carrying a gun in surveillance video, on a gun free campus, and policy verify it, then yes, that's justified, by all aspects of the law. There are countless examples of surveillance of illegal activity resulting in police action.
Are you suggesting it's not?
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Wouldn’t matter if they did. There’s no penalty for getting it wrong so the human is always incentivized to say yes and then say oops if it was wrong.
If there’s no feedback mechanism, verification doesn’t matter.
Yes, clearly the journalist was the cause of the problem here. You're an idiot.