Comment by matthewmacleod

6 months ago

And at the same time they keep making the system more and more closed, so that you can't even run applications without Apple's permission.

This is simply not true.

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Rochus  6 months ago

> This is simply not true.

Ok, then try to run a pre-compiled macOS M1 compatible application on your new Sequoia system, such as https://github.com/rochus-keller/oberonsystem3/ or https://github.com/rochus-keller/leancreator/. Requires quite some tricks so that at least some applications run without Apple's benedictions, but the tricks don't work for all such applications; and as it looks, they will also remove the last remaining work-arounds in future.

  • letrix  6 months ago

    LeanCreator:

    - Unzip archive

    - Try double-click, security error

    - Go to Privacy & Security and click "Open anyway"

    - Try double-click again, it opens fine.

    ObreonSystem:

    - Open DMG and copy all the files to a folder

    - Try double-click, program opens fine but errors because missing files.

    - Uses instructions given in README, running with './ObreonSystem', and program opens without errors.

    macOS 26.0.1

    • Rochus  6 months ago

      > "Go to Privacy & Security and click "Open anyway"

      Thanks. Unfortunately this no longer works on sequoia; you first have to run "spctl --global-disable" in a terminal and then - within a few seconds - go to Privacy & Security and select the new option in the popup menu (which was not available before). See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184553. That's what I meant by "tricks". And even though there are apps which still didn't work. But fortunately I still have a Mac with an older OS version which I'm not going to upgrade.

  • Klonoar  6 months ago

    Uhhh, “don’t work for all applications” needs more context here. What the hell are you talking about?

    • Rochus  6 months ago

      Very simple. Some of the applications work with the "console/allow all" trick (which is a tedious procedure, but hey, I'm just a dumb customer), others still don't work but crash and give strange errors that some stuff could not be accessed. But none works immediately. On systems older than Sequoia, everything works as expected (I just have to start them via the context Open menu, which is ok).

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