Comment by oulipo2

3 days ago

How are you supposed to have a "nuanced discussion" about a guy doing literal Hitler salutes in public?

When you're either unwilling or incapable of understanding other people's perspectives it is indeed very difficult.

Try this: steelman the argument that what Musk did all those months ago wasn't a "literal Hitler salute". If you can do that, I suspect you'll find it a lot easier to have nuanced discussions about that topic (and possibly others) going forward.

  • Looool is that all your argument? "Everyone hates this one simple trick against nazi: try to forget that they do nazi things, and boom!, you're no longer scared of actual nazis"

  • Fuck the salute. I can look at everything else he's done and still think he's a terrible individual that should not be given money or power.

    • Speaking of nuance, I find it rather unintuitive how it often seems like it's harder for people to have a nuanced opinion of other people than to have a nuanced opinion about a policy or software feature or specific situation.

      You'd think given how complicated and faceted people are it would be especially easy to find both good and bad things to say about them, but online at least it almost seems to be the opposite: there's even less nuance when discussing people than there is discussing other topics. (Case in point.)

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